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Nguoi Tien Su




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MessageSujet: 83rd SAG   Lun 12 Mai à 6:02

Yes you read well 83rd SAG and not 83rd SOG.

Does anyone know what is stands for??? My guess will be Special Activity Group, but I am not sure... Any details?



This patch is on an advisor flight suit. He was attached to the 522nd FS (skyraider). The suit is also adorn with the 83rd SOG (Than Phong) patch.

Thanks.

NTS
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MessageSujet: ...also worn by Vietnamese   Mer 14 Mai à 11:45

This patch was probably made for USAF advisors to the 83rd Group; the “A” may stand for Advisor. It was also seen on the flying suits of some Vietnamese pilots of the 522nd Squadron. Somewhere on the web there’s a photo of Captain Tran Ba Hoi wearing it on his right shoulder; circa 1965 with the usual dragon’s head insignia of the group on his left breast.
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MessageSujet: Re: 83rd SAG   Mer 14 Mai à 11:53

Thanks Rolfi,

On this very bad quality photo we can see the same patch worn by one member of Ky's unit.


Actually it seems that some A1 of the 522nd FS were used for the 83rd SOG for the "special" missions.

Thanks again.

NTS
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MessageSujet: Re: 83rd SAG   Mer 14 Mai à 11:56

And it is very messy...

Here you have 83rd SOG patches, 518th FS, 83rd SAG, some unk...

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MessageSujet: Captain Tran Ba Hoi   Mer 14 Mai à 18:07

Captain Tran Ba Hoi is the officer to Ky's left. The officer behind him wears this...
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MessageSujet: Re: 83rd SAG   Mer 14 Mai à 19:23

Argh ! Are you kidding me ?! Hell you seem to be right!!!

This patch has been on the identification page of LJ militaria for a while.
He says that it is a grouping.



Do you know exactly what it is???
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MessageSujet: No   Jeu 15 Mai à 12:43

I wish I did, it's a patch that's been annoying me for years. Somewhere I've a note of who the wearer is; if it'll help I'll dig it out.
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MessageSujet: Another photo..   Jeu 15 Mai à 12:54

Here's another photo of CaptainTran Ba Hoi; the office behind him wearing the mystery patch is Nguyen Quoc Phien.
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MessageSujet: Re: 83rd SAG   Jeu 15 Mai à 14:50

Rolfi, you are killing me !!! I know this photo for a long time and I had never realized that it was this patch. pale
It is Dai Uy Phien on both photos.
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